Kay says, no WMDs,
Published on February 8, 2004 By zergimmi In Politics
In todays Oval office interview with GW Bush, Mr Bush admits that mr Kay has said there are no WMDs, he goes on to say that however he did have the capability, I got a bit embarresed for him at this point , probably because we all knew that, I was he and his advisers who told us that there was more. He definitely looks like a man who wishs it would all just go away.

What gets me is when they have the enquiry into the intelligence, which poor bastard is going to forced to fall on his sword, so Mr Bush , Mr Blair and Mr Howard can wash thier hands clean.

I think we all know that they were pulling our legs from the start, now would be a good time to come clean.
Comments
on Feb 09, 2004
Lets be honest,
while Bush focussed on WMD he did not make this his sole reason for war. This was purely the reason he used in trying to make the UN support a second resolution on war and the reason he tried to use for the original resolution to be broken thus justifying the war. So I don't think he needs to fall on his sword. He got it wrong and loses credibility for it, nothing worse. Whether the US will face some legal issues (potential future law suits from Iraqi's) because of this is another question though.

Paul.
on Feb 09, 2004
Try telling that to the general populace when the media go on the attack
on Feb 09, 2004
None of them want to reckon that going to war was a political decision. In UK they first blamed the media, now they blame the intelligence. I think only history and next poll are going to juge them.

Reading a good article in the guardian from gary young, I noticed a good sentence:
"This war is not just killing Iraqi civilians, resistance fighters and coalition soldiers. It's murdering any pretence that we live in countries that value, let alone practice, the principle of democratic accountability. It calls into question our ability to rein in political excess and to root out state-sponsored incompetence. "

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,1144021,00.html
on Feb 09, 2004
Lets be honest,
while Bush focussed on WMD he did not make this his sole reason for war. This was purely the reason he used in trying to make the UN support a second resolution on war and the reason he tried to use for the original resolution to be broken thus justifying the war.


You're right, the biggest reason is much less noble
on Feb 09, 2004
Great article JEPEL, thanks for the link.
on Feb 09, 2004
The United States has a long history of these types of wars, the difference is that they weren't as controverisal. One of the worst was the destruction of a democratic government in Guatemala during the 50's in which we replace a good government with a miliary government that killed many people.
on Feb 09, 2004
"When I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for. That is, at the end of the first Gulf War, we knew what he had. We knew what was destroyed in all the inspection processes and that was a lot. And then we bombed with the British for four days in 1998. We might have gotten it all; we might have gotten half of it; we might have gotten none of it. But we didn't know. So I thought it was prudent for the president to go to the U.N. and for the U.N. to say you got to let these inspectors in, and this time if you don't cooperate the penalty could be regime change, not just continued sanctions. Iraq repeatedly made false declarations about the weapons that it had left in its possession after the Gulf War. When UNSCOM would then uncover evidence that gave the lie to those declarations, Iraq would simply amend the reports. For example, Iraq revised its nuclear declarations four times within just 14 months, and it has submitted six different biological warfare declarations, each of which has been rejected by UNSCOM. In 1995 Hussein Kamal, Saddam's son-in-law and the chief organizer of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program, defected to Jordan. He revealed that Iraq was continuing to conceal weapons and missiles and the capacity to build many more. Then and only then did Iraq admit to developing numbers of weapons in significant quantities--and weapons stocks. Previously it had vehemently denied the very thing it just simply admitted once Saddam's son-in-law defected to Jordan and told the truth. Now listen to this: What did it admit? It admitted, among other things, an offensive biological warfare capability, notably, 5,000 gallons of botulinum, which causes botulism; 2,000 gallons of anthrax; 25 biological-filled Scud warheads; and 157 aerial bombs. And I might say UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production. . . . Next, throughout this entire process, Iraqi agents have undermined and undercut UNSCOM. They've harassed the inspectors, lied to them, disabled monitoring cameras, literally spirited evidence out of the back doors of suspect facilities as inspectors walked through the front door, and our people were there observing it and had the pictures to prove it. . . . Over the past few months, as [the weapons inspectors] have come closer and closer to rooting out Iraq's remaining nuclear capacity, Saddam has undertaken yet another gambit to thwart their ambitions by imposing debilitating conditions on the inspectors and declaring key sites which have still not been inspected off limits, including, I might add, one palace in Baghdad more than 2,600 acres large. . . . One of these presidential sites is about the size of Washington, D.C. . . . It is obvious that there is an attempt here, based on the whole history of this operation since 1991, to protect whatever remains of his capacity to produce weapons of mass destruction, the missiles to deliver them, and the feed stocks necessary to produce them. The UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq still has stockpiles of chemical and biological munitions, a small force of Scud-type missiles, and the capacity to restart quickly its production program and build many, many more weapons. . . . Now, let's imagine the future. What if he fails to comply and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made? Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some way, I guarantee you he'll use the arsenal. . . . In the next century, the community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now--a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists, drug traffickers, or organized criminals who travel the world among us unnoticed. If we fail to respond today, Saddam, and all those who would follow in his footsteps, will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United Nations Security Council, and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction program." -Bill Clinton. I ask you, where is Bush and Clinton's policies different?